Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!rutgers!sri-spam!ames!amdcad!phil From: phil@amdcad.AMD.COM (Phil Ngai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Intel Microprocessors (History) Message-ID: <17979@amdcad.AMD.COM> Date: Thu, 20-Aug-87 12:55:53 EDT Article-I.D.: amdcad.17979 Posted: Thu Aug 20 12:55:53 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 22-Aug-87 10:45:59 EDT References: <1112@lznv.ATT.COM> <399@aucs.UUCP> <3225@cucca.columbia.edu> <892@looking.UUCP> <79@LBI.UUCP> <182@hobbes.UUCP> Reply-To: phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., Sunnyvale, Ca. Lines: 45 In article <182@hobbes.UUCP> root@hobbes.UUCP (John Plocher) writes: >Hindsight is always best. Granted, segment registers can be a pain, but >AT THE TIME, they were very useful! What were *you* doing with micros in >September of 1980 (when the PC was starting design life)? John does a decent job of defending IBM's choice of Intel's 8088 for the PC. I'd like to add a few notes on the environment in which Intel designed the 8088. (Of course, I hate small segments as much as anyone but I suspect a lot of the youngsters on the net don't have enough sense of history to understand why things are the way they are.) These quotes are from William Davidow's book _Marketing High Technology_. He was senior vice president of sales and marketing for Intel and has a Ph.D from Stanford. "Les Vadasz and I had been co-general managers of the microprocessor division in 1976 when the 8086 was being planned. At the time we decided to make the product an extension of the then-successful 8080 family. That created some design problems, but they were more than counterbalanced, in our opinion, by the resulting access to a large existing software library. The 8086 was introduced to the market in 1978. As the first high-performance, fully supported 16-bit microprocessor, it had quickly gained the top position in the market, capturing the lead from older and less capable products supplied by TI and National." I did a lab project in 1978 using the then new and expensive 16,384 bit dynamic RAM. I needed an 8-bit memory but the RAMs were so expensive I could only afford one and I had to multiplex and demultiplex 8 bits into 1 bit. From 1980, when I started working, until about 1983, 65,536 bit dynamic RAMs were state of the art. Our era of cheap megabyte memories started a very short time ago. The 8086 was designed over 11 years ago, in a time when 4,096 bytes of static memory took up an entire S-100 card, and dynamic memory was regarded as unreliable. The designers also had not had our experience of more than a decade of watching memory sizes double every few years and offering a megabyte of address space must have seemed like quite a bold idea. Hey Clif, why don't you defend your own company? -- I speak for myself, not the company. Phil Ngai, {ucbvax,decwrl,allegra}!amdcad!phil or amdcad!phil@decwrl.dec.com