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From: romero@mind.UUCP (Antonio Romero)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: MKS Toolkit?
Message-ID: <1155@mind.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 22-Aug-87 16:11:26 EDT
Article-I.D.: mind.1155
Posted: Sat Aug 22 16:11:26 1987
Date-Received: Sun, 23-Aug-87 13:19:17 EDT
References: <690001@hpfcmt.HP.COM> <3320045@hpsrlc.HP.COM> <3753@well.UUCP>
Organization: Cognitive Science, Princeton University
Lines: 37
Keywords: MKS toolkit orders
Summary: Some problems of my own with the toolkit

In article <3753@well.UUCP>, hrh@well.UUCP (Harry Henderson) writes:
> In article <3320045@hpsrlc.HP.COM> waynec@hpsrlc.HP.COM (Wayne Cannon) writes:
> >Mortice Kern Systems, Inc.
> >43 Bridgeport Road East
> >Waterloo, Ontario, Canada     N2J 2J4
> >
> >(519) 884-2251
> >
> I would be interested in corresponding by email with other users of
> the toolkit. It's an impressive subset of UNIX system V and runs
> very well on PCs. You can run it with Sidekick if you're careful,
> there are several sample configurations given, and you can even
> maintain multiple environments for different projects.
> I have sent them a bug report though because "find" does not seem
> to work when current directory is root. I haven't banged on the
> toolkit enough to know if there are other bugs.

Where I work for money nowadays we're having our share of problems
with a couple of the utilities.  Most of them (especially the VI)
are really nice-- gotta love being able to "suspend a VI session"
in DOS-- but ls, of all things, doesn't seem to work if you're 
running Novell network software and you try to ls a network drive.
Kind of a pity.
Also, the Kornshell they provide doesn't work with Novell network.
Plus it seems to go insane if you type ^P in "vi" command-line-editing
mode.   These two bugs make it almost unusable. 
A real shame-- we almost had the best answer to the problem of
the feebleness of COMMAND.COM.

Despite my mentions of bugs, I'd still suggest buying this product
if you want an environment which looks a lot more like Unix than 
COMMAND.COM will ever come.  It's nice, and works really well
as long as you don't have the Novell network stuff.
Even if you can't work with the shell, the utilities alone are just
wonderful to have around.

Anyway, that's it...    -Antonio Romero		romero@psycho.Princeton.EDU