Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!columbia!rutgers!ames!sdcsvax!maiden From: maiden@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU (VLSI Layout Project) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Finder improvements Message-ID: <3616@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> Date: Fri, 7-Aug-87 10:39:54 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcsvax.3616 Posted: Fri Aug 7 10:39:54 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Aug-87 02:06:28 EDT References: <19906@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU: <4524@nsc.nsc.com> <2606@husc6.UUCP> <1116@van-bc.UUCP> Reply-To: maiden@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU (VLSI Layout Project) Followup-To: E. Jung Distribution: world Organization: U.C. San Diego Lines: 42 In article <4524@nsc.nsc.com> grenley@nsc.UUCP (George Grenley) writes: >Please, Apple, use Unix as a guide on how NOT to do things. Unix is the worst >most offensive piece of trash ever to be foisted on the unsuspecting [non- >programming] public. I don't want to start a discussion on the merits/demerits of UNIX, but there are a number of good reasons to use it: 1. Many people in the academic community have reason to like UNIX and want some compatability with it. 2. It would be nice to have multi-tasking and batch processing abilities. 3. There are many utilities available, so rather than making a new OS and having a dearth of support software (which is more difficult to write on multitasking systems than on uniprocessing systems), Apple can have disk backup, archive, mail, etc. utilities already there. 4. UNIX attracts 3rd party developers. High powered software (simulation and CAD systems) are available on UNIX systems. It is relatively easy to port from a SUN UNIX to a A/UX Macintosh II. More developers will be sucked into the Mac with little effort (read: RISK) and if sales pan out, will make Mac-like versions using the A/UX toolbox. 5. UNIX is flexible. It is entirely possible to make a user friendly UNIX shell (like the finder, for example). SUNTOOLS on SUN workstations isn't too difficult to use; I'm sure somebody (e.g. APPLE) could come out with a far nicer one for end-users (SUN's is for power-users who like the flexibility of SUNTOOLS). By making A/UX and the associated toolbox, Apple gets to do all of the above. Nobody *has* to use UNIX, but many people may want to. Furthermore, there are alot of UNIX systems, and A/UX will allow a fairly transparent migration of files from one to another and a new level of networking (NFS?). EKYJ. -- Edward K.Y. Jung The Deep Thought Group: Searching for a better way to think. UUCP: {seismo|decwrl}!sdcsvax!maiden ARPA: maiden@beowulf.ucsd.edu