Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!rutgers!labrea!decwrl!nsc!voder!apple!batman From: batman@apple.UUCP (Ken Laws) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Mac II Sound Mover Message-ID: <1484@apple.UUCP> Date: Sun, 16-Aug-87 14:09:20 EDT Article-I.D.: apple.1484 Posted: Sun Aug 16 14:09:20 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 16-Aug-87 23:11:10 EDT References: <966@oakhill.UUCP> Reply-To: batman@apple.UUCP (Ken Laws) Distribution: world Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, USA Lines: 42 In article 5168, Russell Schwausch writes... "I'm interested in replacing the beep sound on my Mac Plus with one of the Mac II sounds, specifically the "boing" sound. Is this possible?" Oh, if only it were. The Mac II sound manager hasn't been ported to the Plus or SE yet. Rumor has it that they will sometime next year (it's very complex compared to the managers they did port in the last system). Since the release of HyperCard, everyone and their brother has thrown out their MPW development system in favor of HyperCard (exagerating? Oh, a tad). I mean, if you can create applications in hours that used to take weeks, why bother with MPW? Okay, actually, there is a reason. HyperCard has a fantastic external procedure capability. You can even execute *ANY* HyperCard command from your MPW code. Naturally, I'm going to do my sound mover in HyperCard. There is a hitch, though. Bill named his sound resources 'snd ', just like on the Mac II. However, the two types don't seem to be compatible. If you take the Mac II boing and try to play it in HyperCard, nothing happens. The same holds true in the opposite direction. Bill said something about 'type 1' and 'type 2' snd resources, and his were type 2, and type 1's were on their way out. I haven't seen a new sound cdev. I haven't seen any new Mac II snd resources that work in HyperCard. What's going on? It'd be great if both HyperCard and the II used the same sounds. They don't at this point. Too bad. Enough of this. To summarize: no, you can't use an snd as your alert sound on a Mac Plus. HyperCard uses snd's, but not the same kind as the II uses. Next year they may port the Mac II sound manager to the Plus. HyperCard is the wave of the future (not 4th Dimension). -Ken Laws Disclaimer: Apple? I'm just on their bowling team!