Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!think!ames!oliveb!sun!gravity!klein From: klein%gravity@Sun.COM (Mike Klein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Hypercard - How About New Mac Owner Message-ID: <26171@sun.uucp> Date: Thu, 20-Aug-87 20:12:07 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.26171 Posted: Thu Aug 20 20:12:07 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 22-Aug-87 14:41:44 EDT References: <36@mtunj.ATT.COM> <174400045@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@sun.uucp Reply-To: klein@sun.UUCP (Mike Klein) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA Lines: 34 In article <174400045@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu> dorner@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu writes: > Why is Apple charging the $50 in the first place? I can't imagine they > are going to make lots of money from it. It's far more than distribution > cost. Is it to give dealerships a profit on the thing? Or is it to give > an incentive to people to buy macs (they're getting something for free)? > It sure isn't good PR--rightly or wrongly, most of us have come to expect > to get operating system upgrades from Apple for free, and having to pay > for this one hurts a little. Think about Apple's costs. First, 4 disks, maybe $4.00. A manual, which as I've heard sounds like about 200 pages, nicely printed (as it should be), maybe $10.00. A box, packing, shrinkwrap, labor to put it all together, maybe $2.00. Now, overhead costs: inventory, shipping, allowance for defective (or returned) merchandise, $3.00. That adds up to $19.00. A very reasonable dealer markup so that they are motivated to carry it (and take up shelf space, add to their overhead, etc.) brings it up to maybe $40.00 for the suggested retail price; discounters can offer it for less. Now all these numbers are approximate, of course, but the point is that the price is eminently reasonable and the above numbers *do not* include any profit for Apple, or a charge for support. An unidentified Apple executive was quoted in a newspaper article I read as saying that Apple's price (to dealers) does not cover their costs. Dealers *must* make a profit, or they simply won't carry it. The dealers, unlike Apple, have no long term advantage in foregoing the profit on this product. Apple's reasoning is that it will sell a lot more Macs and offering it at the lowest reasonable cost will sell the most Macs. I am personally applauding Apple's move on providing HyperCard and MultiFinder for $49 each. Great work! -- Mike Klein klein@Sun.COM Sun Microsystems, Inc. {ucbvax,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!sun!klein Mountain View, CA