Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!labrea!decwrl!pyramid!voder!apple!bc From: bc@apple.UUCP (bill coderre) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Hypercard - How About New Mac Owner Message-ID: <1574@apple.UUCP> Date: Fri, 21-Aug-87 13:00:52 EDT Article-I.D.: apple.1574 Posted: Fri Aug 21 13:00:52 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Aug-87 02:50:48 EDT References: <36@mtunj.ATT.COM> <174400045@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: Apple Computer, Inc., Cupertino, USA Lines: 41 Sorry to flame, but please, folks! Why $50? You say, "It's far more than distribution costs?" Oh, how do you know? What do you think they are? Let's talk several hundred pages of manual, in typical Apple style. Four disks (over 2 Megabytes of data), nice high quality disks. Good looking box. Shipping and sales support. Shrink wrap! A new icon of Bill Atkinson! (grin) Seriously: Dealers cannot afford to sell anything that they don't make money on. Computer retail doesn't work on the "supermarket" margin. Every item has to pay for itself. The volume isn't big enough. Yet. Consider: How much will it cost you to download 2 Megabytes from your favorite BBS? (That does not include electronic copies of the paper manual.) Answer: You're right! Apple is not going to make much money on this. Except in new Macintosh sales. And for those lucky people, they get it free. I intend to buy a copy of Hypercard just so I can have the nice manuals. I hate the xerox pre-drafts I've been wading through. (No, even the real employees don't get it free.) Please, let's not argue "just how much is Apple ripping off the poor, underprivileged User?" again. We went through ages of that about Inside Mac. Let's talk "product value versus product cost". Have you ever seen any product from any company that gave you so much power for so little money? (Okay, there are one or two.) Note: Microsoft/IBM Presentation Manager/OS-2 developer's kit is $3000. Apple will be mad at me for flaming you, but please. Consider the value, not the cost. Software doesn't cost anything. It provides value..........................................................bc