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From: mcb@lll-tis.arpa (Michael C. Berch)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Setting up LIBDIR/sys
Message-ID: <21623@lll-tis.arpa>
Date: Wed, 29-Jul-87 16:01:48 EDT
Article-I.D.: lll-tis.21623
Posted: Wed Jul 29 16:01:48 1987
Date-Received: Fri, 31-Jul-87 05:31:58 EDT
References: <2717@psuvax1.psu.edu>
Reply-To: mcb@lll-tis.arpa (Michael C. Berch)
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore CA
Lines: 40
Summary: Use "expire -a" instead

In <2717@psuvax1.psu.edu> ehrlich@psuvax1.psu.edu.UUCP (Dan Ehrlich) writes:
> I am trying to set up our sys file so that articles posted to certain
> news groups are saved away for safe keeping.  Many moons ago (August
> 1982) Allan Watt posted a shell script (savesource) that could be used
> to do this.  Below are the entries in question from the sys file and
> even though new articles have arrived for comp.sources.unix, nothing
> was saved.  I have checked the file protections on the directories,
> etc, and they all seem to be correct.  If anyone has any ideas I would
> appreciate hearing from you.  Thanks in advance.

Rather than messing up the sys file, you might want to consider using
"expire -a" to archive (instead of delete) articles in specific
groups.  We like to keep the sources and bugs groups indefinitely, too, 
and the nightly expire script includes the following:

set archive="comp.sources.amiga,comp.sources.atari.st,comp.sources.bugs,comp.sources.games,comp.sources.mac,comp.sources.misc,comp.sources.unix,comp.bugs.4bsd.ucb-fixes"
set EXPLOG=expire.log
(time expire -a -e21 -v2 -n $archive)			>>& $EXPLOG
(time expire -e21 -v2)					>>& $EXPLOG

By default expire -a saves the articles in the usual tree format in
the directory /usr/spool/oldnews. MUCH better than running a special
"save" program every time an article comes in. I suppose it is
trivially less "safe" than saving them when they're posted (e.g.,
something could happen to them during the 2-3 weeks that they're in
the normal spool directory, but it's a LOT less hassle.

But, if you don't run expire (:-) and insist on using the sys file lines in
the quoted article, all you need to do is add "world" to the
newsgroup/distribution field in the sys entry, e.g.:

< BUGS4BSD:comp.bugs.4bsd::/usr/new/lib/news/savesource /usr/spool/news/savedir/comp/bugs/4bsd

> BUGS4BSD:world,comp.bugs.4bsd::/usr/new/lib/news/savesource /usr/spool/news/savedir/comp/bugs/4bsd

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Michael C. Berch 
News/mail admin - lll-tis systems
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