Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!rochester!udel!burdvax!psuvax1!gondor.psu.edu!flee From: flee@gondor.psu.edu.UUCP Newsgroups: news.admin,news.software.b Subject: Re: Using "local" as a newsgroup name considered harmful Message-ID: <2857@psuvax1.psu.edu> Date: Tue, 18-Aug-87 23:53:39 EDT Article-I.D.: psuvax1.2857 Posted: Tue Aug 18 23:53:39 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 21-Aug-87 04:51:20 EDT References: <434@acornrc.UUCP> <587@its63b.ed.ac.uk> <14347@watmath.waterloo.edu> <8430@utzoo.UUCP> Sender: netnews@psuvax1.psu.edu Reply-To: flee@gondor.psu.edu (Felix Lee) Organization: The Roadside Picnic Lines: 36 Xref: utgpu news.admin:773 news.software.b:724 Error-of-the-Day: EEXIST(17): File exists In article <8430@utzoo.UUCP> henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) writes: >U of Toronto occasionally sees U of Texas news too. Geoff and I are thinking >about a solution for this for C news; it's not simple. Case: Someone at Univ. Wisconsin posts to soc.motss and uw.general, distribution world. The article turns up in uw.general at Univ. Waterloo. Case: I want to post to Penn State and Univ. Waterloo, so I post the article to psu.general and uw.general, distribution na. It turns up in uw.general at Univ. Wisconsin. Problem: Given two regions A1 and A2 with the same name A, how do you tell if the name A refers to A1 or A2? Answer: You can't. Solution: Make all names unique. Either make sure they're globally unique, like UUCP, or qualify the names, like ARPA: /world/na/usa/canada/waterloo/uw.general Something less clumsy would be better. Solution: Disallow posting to a region you don't belong in. Force Distribution to be the smallest distribution of all the Newsgroups, so the article doesn't ever leave the region. (Currently, a newsgroup's distribution is the top-level name, if that name is found in LIBDIR/distributions; otherwise, it's "world".) Munging the Newsgroups line to delete local groups won't work, because the article could conceivably hop out of the region and hop back in faster than it hops across the region. Any other solutions? -- Felix Lee flee@gondor.psu.edu {cbosgd,cmcl2}!psuvax1!gondor!flee Copyright (C) 1987 by Felix Lee. Reprinted with permission.