Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!oddjob!gargoyle!ihnp4!kitty!larry From: larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: TTL Questions Message-ID: <1925@kitty.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Aug-87 19:16:16 EDT Article-I.D.: kitty.1925 Posted: Mon Aug 10 19:16:16 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Aug-87 01:07:42 EDT References: <7105@alice.UUCP> <764@sol.ARPA> <128@umich.UUCP> <647@neoucom.UUCP> Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY Lines: 27 Keywords: TTL, pullups Summary: Another reason to use pull-up resistors... In article <647@neoucom.UUCP>, wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) writes: > Manufacturers recommend tieing unused inputs to logic level high > via a pull-up mainly for the safety of the chip in electrically > noisy environments. There is another reason why I use pull-up resistors for unused logic level high inputs: it makes it easier to implement post-production design revisions (since the resistor can be easily removed if necessary, or the pin simply tied elsewhere in the circuitry if the pin is to be pulled down to logic low). While it is not possible to use such a trick when pins are to be tied to logic low level, if I anticipate a potential future logic change, I have been known to pull a pin low by employing an unused negative logic gate or inverter (whose input is pulled high using a resistor). I call the above design technique "ECO-logic". :-) > One resistor per > every 10 to 15 unused inputs really isn't asking much. I would never do this; either use individual resistors, or tie the inputs to Vcc if you must - but using a common resistor across a number of logic elements is an invitation to Transient Trouble. <> Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, New York <> UUCP: {allegra|ames|boulder|decvax|rutgers|watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry <> VOICE: 716/688-1231 {hplabs|ihnp4|mtune|seismo|utzoo}!/ <> FAX: 716/741-9635 {G1,G2,G3 modes} "Have you hugged your cat today?"