Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!sunybcs!kitty!larry From: larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Does anyone remember the Phantastron tube and how it worked? Message-ID: <1928@kitty.UUCP> Date: Tue, 11-Aug-87 12:44:48 EDT Article-I.D.: kitty.1928 Posted: Tue Aug 11 12:44:48 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Aug-87 02:33:54 EDT References: <3574@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> <600@imtec.co.uk> Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY Lines: 36 Summary: "serrasoid" modulator for linear FM waveform generation... In article <600@imtec.co.uk>, peter@imtec.co.uk (Peter Rushworth) writes: I think we were discussing means of FM modulation... > >It was explained to me that the phantastron tube was basically set up > >so that an electron beam travelled from cathode to anode as in most > >tubes, but that there was a large magnet clamped around the tube to > >force the beam into a helical path to make it longer. Apparently > >there were a set of electrodes that stretched or compressed the length > >of the helix, thus changing the time it took for the electron beam to > >traverse the tube, thus phase modulating the signal. > > > What you describe sounds similar to what I think is called the "serrodyne" > effect (spelling from memory). I once worked on a system which used > a travelling wave tube to modulate a (GHz) signal like this. I don't recall > magnets, but there was a sawtooth input (<10Khz) to the helix, as you > increased the amplitude, the signal freqency reduced. You may be referring to a "serrasoid" modulator, which is a circuit and not a specific device. In this circuit, a reference frequency in a sawtooth waveform is fed to one input of a comparator; the modulating voltage is fed to a voltage-to-quadratic function converter whose output is fed to the other input of the comparator. The output of the comparator goes through a filter, and a frequency multiplier if necessary. The circuit works because the output of the comparator generates short pulses whenever the quadratic modulating function crosses the reference sawtooth with a positive slope. The spacing of these pulses varies with time, and when _filtered_ form a linear FM waveform. The degree of frequency variation is limited with this basic circuit, which is why a frequency multiplier is often employed after the filter to achieve the desired FM deviation. <> Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, New York <> UUCP: {allegra|ames|boulder|decvax|rutgers|watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry <> VOICE: 716/688-1231 {hplabs|ihnp4|mtune|seismo|utzoo}!/ <> FAX: 716/741-9635 {G1,G2,G3 modes} "Have you hugged your cat today?"