Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!husc6!uwvax!oddjob!gargoyle!ihnp4!inuxc!iuvax!bsu-cs!dhesi From: dhesi@bsu-cs.UUCP (Rahul Dhesi) Newsgroups: sci.math,sci.math.symbolic,sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Russell's set of sets which... paradox Message-ID: <902@bsu-cs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 29-Jul-87 17:03:57 EDT Article-I.D.: bsu-cs.902 Posted: Wed Jul 29 17:03:57 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Aug-87 04:46:39 EDT References: <1404@cullvax.UUCP> Reply-To: dhesi@bsu-cs.UUCP (Rahul Dhesi) Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana Lines: 26 Xref: mnetor sci.math:1698 sci.math.symbolic:114 sci.philosophy.tech:331 In article <1404@cullvax.UUCP> drw@cullvax.UUCP (Dale Worley) writes: >campbell@utx1.UUCP (Tom Campbell) writes: [about paradoxes] >The earliest example that I know of is from the Scholastic philosophy >(Midaeval Catholic, about 1300?): "Can God make a stone so large that >he can't lift it?" The solution, of course, is that there can be no >such stone. Assumption: God is all-powerful. Conclusion: God *can* make a stone that he can't lift. Then he *can* lift it. For being all-powerful means having the ability to violate the rules of logic, for the rules of logic exist only because God allows them to; therefore God can suspend the rules. If you disagree, it is because your concept of a supreme being (a being who can do anything provided he abides by your axioms) is different from mine (a being who can do anything, including changing my axioms to suit his purpose). Followups disccouraged, because of the danger of this degenerating into a reigious debate. Enough to say that supreme beings are in general poor subjects for discussion in the same breath as mathematics and logic. -- Rahul Dhesi UUCP: {ihnp4,seismo}!{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!dhesi