Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!rlgvax!cliff From: cliff@rlgvax.UUCP (Cliff Joslyn) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Definition of science and of scientific method. Message-ID: <586@rlgvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 30-Jul-87 13:28:32 EDT Article-I.D.: rlgvax.586 Posted: Thu Jul 30 13:28:32 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Aug-87 09:54:08 EDT References: <6693@allegra.UUCP> <1664@tekcrl.TEK.COM> <1084@aecom.YU.EDU> <329@inco.UUCP> Organization: Computer Consoles Inc, Reston VA Lines: 34 In article <329@inco.UUCP>, mack@inco.UUCP (Dave Mack) writes: > > Science: > uses a formal language (mathematics) which is susceptible > to analysis. > deals with observable phenomena. > proceeds from a relatively small number of explicitly > stated axioms. Howdy neighbor. I must disagree with this. A physicist approaching the world is working perhaps on a specific problem, but with a whole wealth of perhaps even unconscious assumptions about the world and how it works. However, I do believe that he/she is trying to determine those axioms (first principles, fundamental forces, natural laws) from which that whole can be deduced, which is almost exactly the converse of the above. > Philosophy: > uses an informal (natural) language which is not susceptible > to analysis. Only some kinds of philosophy. There is a great deal of "analytical" philosophy of mind and language which is constantly developing novel formal languages. Indeed, logic itself was originally a philosophical endeavor. Of course, what we're talking about is the relation between philosophy and mathematics. However, I'd grant that Kierkegaard and Sartre do not work in formalism (well, maybe Sartre, if you pushed it just right. . .) -- O-----------------------------------------------------------------------> | Cliff Joslyn, Computer Consoles Inc., Reston, Virgnia, but my opinions. | UUCP: ..!seismo!rlgvax!cliff V All the world is biscuit shaped