Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!husc6!rutgers!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!hoptoad!laura From: laura@hoptoad.uucp (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Do philosophers need defending? Message-ID: <2569@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Thu, 30-Jul-87 19:07:47 EDT Article-I.D.: hoptoad.2569 Posted: Thu Jul 30 19:07:47 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Aug-87 11:51:54 EDT References: <3219@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> <825@klipper.cs.vu.nl> <3227@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> <831@klipper.cs.vu.nl> <3392@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Reply-To: laura@hoptoad.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Distribution: world Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 32 Keywords: methodology creativity >In article <831@klipper.cs.vu.nl> biep@cs.vu.nl (J. A. "Biep" Durieux) writes: > >In an "ideal" world, where methodology for every science is complete, >scientific work is just applying the rules of the methodology for that >realm of science: which experiments to perform, which hypotheses to >consider, all is prescribed by the rules. I called this "when philosophy >is ready" (as far as methodology is considered, that is...). So, >ultimately, scientific work is not creative (I hope I now have found the >word..). Of course at the moment it is, since philosophers aren't ready >yet constructing methodologies, and aren't even sure some "final" methodology >is possible at all (it may very well not be). I think that all scientific work is fundamentally creative. Maybe you haven't found the correct word yet. Any creative work is done by ``applying the rules of the methodology'' -- the creative part comes in deciding HOW to aplly the rules and WHICH rules to apply. I can write two programs, both of which yield the correct result, one of which is a ``quick and dirty hack'' and the other which is a beautiful piece of code which has those I show it to gasping at how wonderful it is. There is a difference. Yet the rules for writing code in C do not change. -- (C) Copyright 1987 Laura Creighton - you may redistribute only if your recipients may. ``One must pay dearly for immortality: one has to die several times while alive.'' -- Nietzsche Laura Creighton ihnp4!hoptoad!laura utzoo!hoptoad!laura sun!hoptoad!laura