Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!mcvax!ukc!its63b!aiva!jeff From: jeff@aiva.ed.ac.uk (Jeff Dalton) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Definition of science and of scientific method. Message-ID: <122@aiva.ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 3-Aug-87 10:21:15 EDT Article-I.D.: aiva.122 Posted: Mon Aug 3 10:21:15 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Aug-87 08:59:35 EDT References: <6693@allegra.UUCP> <1664@tekcrl.TEK.COM> <1084@aecom.YU.EDU> <586@rlgvax.UUCP> <333@inco.UUCP> Reply-To: jeff@uk.ac.ed.aiva (Jeff Dalton) Organization: Dept. of AI, Univ. of Edinburgh, UK Lines: 20 In article <333@inco.UUCP> mack@inco.UUCP (Dave Mack) writes: >> > Science: proceeds from a relatively small number of explicitly >> > stated axioms. [...] Examples: > What we (and our instruments) perceive is the "actual" universe. > Physical laws are universal and invariant over time. > Physical laws can be represented mathematically. Well, here's a contrasting position: Rules of this sort are more often implicit, not explicit. Making them explicit is Philosophy of Science, rather than Science. Science does not require a philosophical foundation of this sort. It is Science itself that determines what exists, what we can observe, and what representations are useful. We can even imagine discovering that physical laws are not, say, invariant over time. (You could say, I suppose, that then they're not (really) physical laws, but it's not very enlightening to debate merely what we're going to call various things; and it's wrong to suppose that Science starts with a definite notion of "physical law": like "rigorous proof", this is a notion that has been developed over time.)