Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!ut-sally!turpin From: turpin@ut-sally.UUCP (Russell Turpin) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Science and Aesthetics Message-ID: <8707@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Aug-87 12:35:16 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.8707 Posted: Mon Aug 10 12:35:16 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Aug-87 04:07:59 EDT References: <120@snark.UUCP> <86@thirdi.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 66 Keywords: beauty truth Summary: Perhaps epistemology has shaped our idea of "beauty". In article <86@thirdi.UUCP>, sarge@thirdi.UUCP (Sarge Gerbode) writes: > In article <120@snark.UUCP> eric@snark.UUCP (Eric S. Raymond) writes: > > >Beauty tends to be a good heuristic for what's *interesting* in > >pure mathematics, but it doesn't tell you what's true. In other fields the > >connection is even more tenuous. > > I think what you say in your submission is correct, so far as it goes -- that > we tend to see things as beautiful when we understand them (like F = ma). > > However, I think beauty *is*, in fact, used as a criterion of truth. Given two > theories that equally well explain the facts, I think anyone would pick the one > that was the most "elegant", i.e. that had the most aesthetic appeal. I > wouldn't go so far as to *define* beauty as truth, as Keats did. But I think > it *is* an important criterion for choosing between rival theories. > > I think part of the reason for this is that, as Aristotle says, "pleasure is a > sign of the good". Likewise, aesthetics might be regarded as a "sign of the > true". We tend to feel good when we discover truth. From past experience, we > have learned that discovery of truth (as in your dx/dt example) is accompanied > by an aesthetic sensation. So now, when we have an aesthetic sensation, we > tend to regard that as a sign of being on the right track. > > So I don't think it's a "typical-for-philosophically-naive=westerners > misprojection. It could be regarded as "true by induction". > > At least I get a good aesthetic feeling about it. > > But then, there's no accounting for tastes. Or is there? :-) > -- > "Absolute knowledge means never having to change your mind." > > Sarge Gerbode Given two physical theories with the same explanatory power, when do scientists claim one is more elegant or beautiful than the other? Frequently, the criterion for "elegance" is that one theory makes fewer unexplained assumptions about the world. Thus, the more elegant theory is the one that explains as much with less. Certain kinds of assumptions also seem to be preferred over other kinds of assumption. Suppose that two theories were (a) identical in their explanatory power, and (b) identical in their assumptions except for one. For this one assumption, one theory assumes space is homogenous (physical laws are the same everywhere), and the other theory, while not requiring homogeneity, introduces a new force law. Most scientists would find the latter theory less elegant. Both of these criteria for elegance, namely parsimony of assumptions and preference for general principles of symmetry or invariance over the introduction of new forces, can strongly be argued for on philosophical grounds. In short, scientists call theories beautiful because they are more true, or at least, less wrong. What about two theories that have both identical explanatory power and identical assumptions? I think most physicists would view these theories as identical physical theories, but with different mathematical exposition. While one mathematical exposition might be preferred to the other, on whatever grounds some mathematics can be judged more elegant than other, the "physics" is the same. Russell