Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!linus!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka From: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: dumb question about defining truth Message-ID: <2299@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Aug-87 22:25:45 EDT Article-I.D.: mmintl.2299 Posted: Mon Aug 10 22:25:45 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Aug-87 08:20:11 EDT References: <3728@watdcsu.waterloo.edu> Reply-To: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Distribution: world Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT. Lines: 21 In article <3728@watdcsu.waterloo.edu> dmcanzi@watdcsu.UUCP (David Canzi) writes: >Let's say that you define truth something like this: Statement X is >true iff statement X satisfies condition Y. In order to apply this >definition to determine whether X is true, one must determine whether >the statement "Statement X satisfies condition Y" is true. > >How do you do that? Strictly speaking, it would seem that one must instead define: Statement X is true iff statement X passes test Y. Then to see if X is true, one must perform Y; this no longer involves evaluating the truth of any sentence. Note that to test the truth of statement X, we *apply* the definition. This is not the same as plugging statement X into the definition and seeing if a true statement results; it is instead applying test Y. (None of which should be taken as implying that any such test Y exists.) -- Frank Adams ihnp4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka Ashton-Tate 52 Oakland Ave North E. Hartford, CT 06108