Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!hoptoad!laura From: laura@hoptoad.uucp (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Science and Aesthetics Message-ID: <2734@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Thu, 13-Aug-87 20:20:34 EDT Article-I.D.: hoptoad.2734 Posted: Thu Aug 13 20:20:34 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Aug-87 11:52:44 EDT References: <120@snark.UUCP> <86@thirdi.UUCP> <8707@ut-sally.UUCP> <20070@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <8727@ut-sally.UUCP> <2495@ames.arpa> Reply-To: laura@hoptoad.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 34 Keywords: elegance beauty truth In article <2495@ames.arpa> yamo@orville.UUCP (Michael J. Yamasaki) writes: > >Greetings. Some random comments on recent issues: > >All philosophy is not Western, nor is it logical, and certainly formal logic >is not the paramount of philosophy. Please explain in the context of logic >the notion of no mind in Zen Buddhism or the Tao. Are these not Philosophy? Good Luck. About 3 years ago, I spent a very frustrating time trying to argue that there are philosophic aspects of any religion, and got nowhere. There were a small but very vocal number of people who were convinced that Buddhism (any sort) was a religion, and required a belief in a deity, and therefore was a superstition, and therefore could be discounted. I hope you do better. >Truth is not necessarily deduced truth, nor is it necessarily the result of >causality. Beauty is as good a criteria for Truth, as deduction and >experimentation is for truth. I know what you mean, but you are running counter to the definitions which I am using, where Truth is epistemological truth -- and thus largely deduced Truth. I have a three-legged stool model of reality, where the first leg is (deduced) truth, and the other two are beauty and (moral) goodness. If Truth is to mean the whole stool, do you have another word for the deduced truth leg? -- (C) Copyright 1987 Laura Creighton - you may redistribute only if your recipients may. ``One must pay dearly for immortality: one has to die several times while alive.'' -- Nietzsche Laura Creighton ihnp4!hoptoad!laura utzoo!hoptoad!laura sun!hoptoad!laura