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From: sl@van-bc.UUCP
Newsgroups: can.general
Subject: .bc.ca domain park
Message-ID: <1341@van-bc.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 17-Sep-87 04:33:08 EDT
Article-I.D.: van-bc.1341
Posted: Thu Sep 17 04:33:08 1987
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I recently sent some mail to Rick Adams at UUNET asking about setting up a
domain park and complained about the $150/year charge, lack of action up
here about .ca, etc.

As usual the yanks have a much more pragmatic approach -- lets get on with
it -- than the canadian attitude of -- lets think about it a bit more -- as
epitomized by the .cdn (ean) and netnorth people who *say* they want to set 
up the .ca domain but havn't.

This is his reply. 

> There's no reason to pay the uucp project the $150 to register. I'll register
> a domain for you.
> 
> Why not van.bc.ca? I would pass off everything in bc.ca to you to handle.
> You could be the registrar for a ll of british columbia until someone
> else is willing to do it. Have you talked to ubc about it?
> 
> A mi.us (michigan usa) domain is forming right now that is essentially
> a park. There's no reason you couldn't do somethign similar. You should
> at least ask UBC if they want to get involved.
> 
> ---rick
> 

BTW I did not in any way suggest van.bc.ca. That was his suggestion.

Is there any reason NOT to just do as he suggests. The .cdn and netnorth
people certainly don't have anymore right to organize the .ca domain than
you or me or anyone else.

They've had a year to get it going. I've been bugging the ean people since last
November to get things moving. I've even asked just to allow me to use a 2nd
level domain name "officially" and I would arrange for all forwarding etc
via UUNET, but have been told that they can't do that, and that they were to
busy to get something organized (this was in June, havn't heard anything
from them since).

Any comments. Flames welcome, it at least shows there's some interested
people out there. As I've said before, I'm less interested in the fine
details of how second level domains should be organized (there is no clear
rationale reason to use or NOT to use any of the methods so far suggested,
pick one and use it), as to just getting going.

From a practical point of view, I would like to set up a domain for myself
so that I can more effectively block mail for eastern canada being routed
from UUNET via me to ubc-vision. 

	Sep 17 00:05	1592	uunet!mcvax!cwi.nl!uucp	/bin/uux  - 
		ubc-vision!rmail '(deepthot.uwo.cdn!zenon)'
	Sep 17 00:06	738	uunet!mcvax!geocub!lapalme	/bin/uux  - 
		ubc-vision!rmail '(iro.udem.cdn!major)'

Why these came to here to get forwarded is anyones guess. (Who is udem.cdn
anyway?). 

But UUNET can apparently re-route them appropriately, without rerouting
legitimate mail if we have a better "domain". So for example if we were 
to become .van.bc.ca all mail to ..!van-bc!.. and bc.ca would be rerouted, 
(probably via ubc-vision). Mail to ...van.bc.ca would arrive safe and 
sound directly here.

Without a better domain, all mail to ...!van-bc!..! would be re-routed (ie
all mail with van-bc in the route, but not destined to van-bc.

Of course I could just get him to re-route *ALL* of my mail and let
ubc-vision foot the bill. Actually not a bad idea, they connect a lot more
often than I do, I'd get my mail a *LOT* faster and at much less *EXPENSE*
to myself :-).

We need .ca *NOW* !!!!   Not next year.

--
{ihnp4!alberta!ubc-vision,uunet}!van-bc!Stuart.Lynne Vancouver,BC,604-937-7532
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{ihnp4!alberta!ubc-vision,uunet}!van-bc!Stuart.Lynne Vancouver,BC,604-937-7532