Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!ames!oliveb!sun!gorodish!guy From: guy%gorodish@Sun.COM (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: The 360 was a design landmark (360 vs vax) Message-ID: <26610@sun.uucp> Date: Wed, 26-Aug-87 15:56:41 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.26610 Posted: Wed Aug 26 15:56:41 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Aug-87 03:56:52 EDT References: <855@tjalk.cs.vu.nl> <2683@hoptoad.uucp> <916@haddock.ISC.COM> <26603@sun.uucp> Sender: news@sun.uucp Lines: 21 > OK, so if you implement a VAX using the same technology as a top-of-the line > IBM mainframe, how fast would it be? For some further amplification: from the February 1987 issue of the Digital Technical Journal, on the VAX 8800 family, the cycle time of that family is 45ns. A single-processor 8550 or 8700 is claimed to have a "sustained applications throughput" of 6.0 times an 11/780. From Mike Taylor's article on the Amdahl 5890s, the cycle time of that family is 15ns. A single-processor 5890-190E is claimed to have a MIPS rate 33 times that of an 11/780 for a typical UTS workload. I have no idea how the workloads DEC and Amdahl used compare. Assuming they are comparable, and assuming that the performance difference between the two is solely due to 1) the Amdahl having a cycle time of 3x that of the VAX and 2) the 370 architecture permitting you to build a faster box, the performance increase due to the 370 architecture is about 1.8x. Not shabby, but not 20/8 = 2.5x either. Guy Harris {ihnp4, decvax, seismo, decwrl, ...}!sun!guy guy@sun.com