Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!lll-lcc!pyramid!prls!mips!mash From: mash@mips.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: The 360 was a design landmark (really code density) Message-ID: <631@winchester.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Aug-87 02:55:15 EDT Article-I.D.: winchest.631 Posted: Thu Aug 27 02:55:15 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Aug-87 08:35:47 EDT References: <855@tjalk.cs.vu.nl> <2683@hoptoad.uucp> <916@haddock.ISC.COM> <2596@ames.arpa> <18093@amdcad.AMD.COM> Reply-To: mash@winchester.UUCP (John Mashey) Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 21 In article <18093@amdcad.AMD.COM> tim@amdcad.AMD.COM (Tim Olson) writes: >In article <2596@ames.arpa>, lamaster@pioneer.arpa (Hugh LaMaster) writes: >+----- >| In article <18088@amdcad.AMD.COM> tim@amdcad.UUCP (Tim Olson) writes: >| >| >If the VAX instruction-set was designed for "maximum code density", they >| >certainly did a poor job. Many processors (including some "RISCs" -- >| >IBM ROMP and CRISP) can routinely beat it in code density. >Whoops -- I may have spoken too strongly, here. Note also that ROMP is a 16-register, multiple-instruction-size architecture, whose design goals (low cost) forced them away from caches, and thus towards a denser coding, and also towards lower cost at the sacrifice of some speed. The 32-bit-instruction RISCs [IBM 801, HP Precision, MIPS, SPARC, etc] are usually less dense than a VAX. -- -john mashey DISCLAIMER: UUCP: {decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!decwrl!mips!mash OR mash@mips.com DDD: 408-991-0253 or 408-720-1700, x253 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086