Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.unix.wizards,comp.os.misc Subject: Re: Who owns Unix(tm)?... Message-ID: <8525@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Mon, 31-Aug-87 14:26:43 EDT Article-I.D.: utzoo.8525 Posted: Mon Aug 31 14:26:43 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 31-Aug-87 14:26:43 EDT References: <1665@ncr-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM> <8381@utzoo.UUCP> <797@Pescadero.ARPA> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 32 Keywords: stockholder ownership private enterprise > ...comes divestiture, and _instantly_, a company which had been > involved, by law, in no development of hardware or software > for sale has a $30,000 product on the market... You have the history slightly wrong, Kent. Unix was available to commercial outfits at scandalous prices well before divestiture, on the same theory as for educational users: "we developed this for our own use, since you want it you can have it, as is, don't call us if it breaks". What started with divestiture was the marketing effort. > My point (I _must_ have one, right?) is that that product is > still just fine for AT&T internal use, and any value it has > in that regard is perfectly legitimate. However, the added > commercial value derives from development work during a time > when commercial software development work by AT&T was _illegal_, > and, by normal rules of law, should not accrue to AT&T... The same can be said of almost any AT&T asset, however. The real question underlying all this is whether AT&T, the company, should inherit some of the assets of the Bell System, the defunct regulated monopoly. Many of those assets are of great value to a company which can market them freely, instead of being bound by the restrictions of regulation. Most of them were created using the Bell System's monopoly-derived money, many at a time when using them to compete in the open market would have brought the wrath of the government down on Bell instantly. Without those assets, AT&T would largely cease to exist. Think of it as the price we pay for the continued existence of Bell Labs. (Cripes, I never thought I'd find myself defending AT&T...!) -- "There's a lot more to do in space | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology than sending people to Mars." --Bova | {allegra,ihnp4,decvax,utai}!utzoo!henry