Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bbn!rochester!ritcv!tropix!mjl From: mjl@tropix.UUCP (Mike Lutz) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: brash micros versus the Big Iron: not yet Message-ID: <289@tropix.UUCP> Date: Sat, 5-Sep-87 12:17:00 EDT Article-I.D.: tropix.289 Posted: Sat Sep 5 12:17:00 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 6-Sep-87 06:13:53 EDT References: <622@winchester.UUCP> <12953@amdahl.amdahl.com> <630@winchester.UUCP> <1202@pdn.UUCP> <8524@utzoo.UUCP> <495@telesoft.UUCP> Reply-To: mjl@tropix.UUCP (Mike Lutz) Organization: GCA/Tropel Div. Rochester, NY 14450 Lines: 17 In article <495@telesoft.UUCP> roger@telesoft.UUCP (Roger Arnold @prodigal) writes: >> Many of the software people are among those clamoring for simplicity of >> hardware design, mostly because the hardware designers have such a history >> of getting things wrong when they try to be clever. > >Well, that's not entirely fair. "Clever" hardware designs have >generally worked out fine, for the particular language/environment >that the designers were thinking about when they did the designs. In the first paragraph, I think clever is being used in the sense of "cute", or "tricky", and I entirely agree that such cleverness is at the heart of most CISC problems. In the second paragraph, clever is used in the sense of "ingenious", "skillful", or "resourceful". This second sense, which borders on "elegant", can be applied equally well to special purpose hardware and to RISC designs. Mike Lutz