Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!aurora!labrea!decwrl!pyramid!voder!apple!bcase From: bcase@apple.UUCP (Brian Case) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: brash micros versus the Big Iron: not yet Message-ID: <6248@apple.UUCP> Date: Wed, 16-Sep-87 16:16:46 EDT Article-I.D.: apple.6248 Posted: Wed Sep 16 16:16:46 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Sep-87 11:47:01 EDT References: <622@winchester.UUCP> <1980@sfsup.UUCP> <945@edge.UUCP> Reply-To: bcase@apple.UUCP (Brian Case) Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, USA Lines: 19 In article <945@edge.UUCP> doug@edge.UUCP (Doug Pardee) writes: >Er, all of this presumes that you're hell-bent on making a single-chip CPU. > >We here at Edge make a nice little machine which has a fully 68010 >compatible instruction set, and which executes most instructions in >one clock cycle (just like them there RISC machines). > >No, it doesn't fit on one chip. More like a dozen. >But then, our memory boards have more than one chip on 'em too :-) Well, I must say that a few months of employment at a relatively high- volume manufacturer has done wonders to increase my awareness of cost sensitivity; that is, system cost is everything. (I was stunned to see how far, say, $50 can go when you really put your mind to it.) That is why it is so important to have as much on one chip as possible, and to have that chip mean something even without caches, etc. However, the Edge stuff is incredible when you think about the task at hand. I thought the latest incarnation fits in only 6 gate arrays (just the processor I mean), true?