Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!bbn!clements From: clements@bbn.UUCP Newsgroups: rec.ham-radio,comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: Ham radio & USENET Message-ID: <4008@bbn.COM> Date: Tue, 1-Sep-87 00:08:42 EDT Article-I.D.: bbn.4008 Posted: Tue Sep 1 00:08:42 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 2-Sep-87 01:46:05 EDT References: <275@ndmath.UUCP> <810@qiclab.pdx.com> Reply-To: clements@bbn.com (Bob Clements) Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA Lines: 69 Xref: utgpu rec.ham-radio:2222 comp.dcom.modems:811 Summary: More debunking needed This is a flame about people posting pure nonsense to the net. Why do people do things like this? It means you can't trust anything you read on the net (probably including this message, too). Damn. I have deleted the poster's name, since it's just one example of a general problem - failure to engage brain before putting mouth in gear. A totally uninformed poster writes: >I was under the impression that hams are _specifically_ forbidden to >broadcast. True, but with a _specific_ definition of "broadcasting". At least s/he admits it's an "impression", but why post if that's all it is? It certainly doesn't help anyone. >(ie point-to-point communications only). Total hogwash. >The only thing they are >allowed to send without a _specific_ recipient is a CQ (ie "anybody out there >want to talk"). Again, total hogwash. Section 97.91 reads: "In addition to beacon operation and radio control operation [discussed elsewhere in the rules], the following kinds of one-way communications, addressed to amateur stations, are authorized and will not be construed as broadcasting: (a) Emergency communications, including bona fide emergency drill practice transmissions; (b) Information bulletins consisting solely of subject matter having direct interest to the amateur radio service as such; (c) Round-table discussions [...]; and (d) Code practice transmissions intended for persons learning or improving proficiency in the international Morse code." Section 97.113 prohibits broadcasting and defines it for the amateur radio service: "Subject to the provisions of 97.91 [above], an amateur station shall not be used to engage in any form of broadcasting, that is, the dissemination of radio communications intended to be received BY THE PUBLIC [emphasis added] directly or by the intermediary of relay stations, nor for the retransmission by automatic means of programs or signals emanating from any class of station other than amateur." Nothing about point-to-point, or about specific recipients. >Of course the ARRL station has an exemption for the code practice and >ARRL bulletin transmissions, Also total hogwash. Lots of other stations transmit bulletins and code practice sessions. No exemption needed. (But see below *) >but news would be stretching things a _lot_!! Finally something true! But the reasons are the third-party rules and the non-business rules, as previously posted. * There IS a paragraph which was written to allow the ARRL to pay their full-time operators. This is a narrow exception to the "Thou shalt not make any money from thy ham station" rule, for stations which send at least 40 hours per week of code practice and bulletins, and which meet some other requirements. It allows only salaries for their time while sending such bulletins and code practice. W1AW meets this paragraph and nobody else does, though they could if they wanted. See section 97.112. Sorry, this is getting a bit far from the original comp.dcom.modems article about using Amateur Radio to distribute USENET articles. But I just couldn't let such falsehoods stand. /Rcc (K1BC) clements@bbn.com