Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!labrea!rocky!andy From: andy@rocky.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: undergraduate rankings Message-ID: <561@rocky.STANFORD.EDU> Date: Mon, 7-Sep-87 02:43:49 EDT Article-I.D.: rocky.561 Posted: Mon Sep 7 02:43:49 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 8-Sep-87 01:21:38 EDT References: <10158@duke.cs.duke.edu> Reply-To: andy@rocky.UUCP (Andy Freeman) Organization: Stanford University Computer Science Department Lines: 27 In article <10158@duke.cs.duke.edu> jbd@duke.cs.duke.edu (Joanne Bechta Dugan) writes: >The following is a list of the top 60 undergraduate institutions >on a combination of three measures: the number of graduates who went on >to receive PhD's in science or mathematics from 1971 to 1980; the number >of students who received national Science Foundation fellowships from >1973 to 1984; and the percentage of freshmen with math SAT scores above 600. [list deleted] Ranking by number instead of percentage seems more bogus than necessary to me; it penalizes small schools. Furthermore, the schools I recognize on the list are undergraduate ONLY. If the list is the best undergraduate only schools, it isn't that useful; there are good places to get undergrad degrees that have grad students as well. The big public schools, Berkeley, U-Mich Ann Arbor, Ohio State, UTexas, and U-Minn are so big that they would have been on the list if it really ranked by numbers instead of percentage (and they were eligible). I suspect that the list used percentages but didn't consider schools with grads; I think that at least two of the biggies would have made it otherwise. -andy -- Andy Freeman UUCP: {arpa gateways, decwrl, sun, hplabs, rutgers}!sushi.stanford.edu!andy ARPA: andy@sushi.stanford.edu (415) 329-1718/723-3088 home/cubicle