Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!hplabs!hplabsz!mayer From: mayer@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM (Niels Mayer) Newsgroups: comp.emacs Subject: Re: key bindings for Micro-EMACS [Comment on wind/graphics intrfc] Message-ID: <728@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM> Date: Wed, 26-Aug-87 15:54:36 EDT Article-I.D.: hplabsz.728 Posted: Wed Aug 26 15:54:36 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Aug-87 07:27:11 EDT References: <449@cimcor.UUCP> <295@mundoe.mu.oz> <450@cimcor.UUCP> Reply-To: mayer@hplabsz.UUCP (Niels Mayer) Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Lines: 20 In article <450@cimcor.UUCP> mike@cimcor.UUCP (Michael Grenier) writes: >How about a public domain implementation of curses on top of termcap >so one wouldn't always have to write to the lowest common denominator. >Steve Jobs is probably right in saying that some common windowing and graphics >interface is desperately needed for UNIX if it is going to maintain itself >against the OS/2s and Macs in this world ( at least in that range of hardware). >Curses isn't that answer, of course. I think Steve Jobs meant that we should stop worrying about supporting archaic modes of interaction (the terminal) and get on to supporting modern bitmapped displays and the graphical/iconic modes of interaction that such hardware can support. X windows seems to be the current unix-trend in this direction, and may prove to be the low-level portion of a "common windowing and graphics interface" that will make UNIX "maintain itself against the OS//2s and Macs in this world". The MacApp toolkit of the X windows world has unfortunately not yet been built, although the Xray (HP), Xtools (DEC), and sX (UC Berkeley) toolkits are certainly a step in that direction. -- Niels Mayer. HP Labs.