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From: wayne@fmsrl7.UUCP (//ichael R. //ayne)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: MH
Message-ID: <1867@fmsrl7.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 3-Sep-87 22:34:02 EDT
Article-I.D.: fmsrl7.1867
Posted: Thu Sep  3 22:34:02 1987
Date-Received: Sat, 5-Sep-87 15:33:39 EDT
References: <1700@fmsrl7.UUCP> <68200001@hplabsb.UUCP>
Reply-To: wayne@fmsrl7.UUCP (/\/\ichael R. \/\/ayne)
Organization: Ford Motor Company, Scientific Research Labs, Dearborn, MI
Lines: 45
Keywords: MH, sendmail

In article <68200001@hplabsb.UUCP> marvit@hplabsb.UUCP (Peter Marvit) writes:
><Regarding someone's lack of sendmail on System V>
>
>> Why can't Rand/UCI/someone make MH run without depending on sendmail (on
>> top of smail, for example)?  Trying to run on a SysV box without sendmail
>> is pure hell.  If anything else came close, I would switch immediately
>> but I'm spoiled by the parts that do work.
>
>Short ad:  HP is (mostly) system V and runs sendmail.  Demand same from
>your SysV UNIX box vendor.  $$ talks!

	Wanna post/mail the source?  You could make a LOT of people happy.

(Truth in advertising:  Gotta watch those sweeping statements, the HP
			9000/320 I work on does NOT have sendmail... :-)

>Re MH:  Source is in the public domain and is now administered by anarchy
>since the original progenators have cut their umbilical cords.  MH in fact
>runs with mmdf and its own transport system, including through UUCP via
>rmail.  If it doesn't work on your site, make sure you have MH6.5, with the
>latest patches and make sure you've compiled with the appropriate
>switches. Then, if you still don't like the way it works, feel free to
>change it and send the changes to the free world. MH only runs *better*
>with sendmail ;-)

	Well, MH 6.1 would not run AT ALL with the MH transport system.
I did spend a lot of time debugging/fixxing this until I found out that
MH 6.5 was available.  I picked it up via ftp from somewhere (forgot
where) a while back (several months) thanx to a pointer from Ken Yap
(seismo!rochester!ken).  MH 6.5 works a bit better with the MH
transport system but hooks do not work at all, mail gets dropped all
over the system, strange messages do not get to their destinations.  I
managed to get onto the Internet mailing list, but they dropped me
after about a week (can't say I blame them, ford-vax seems to
disconnect from the net frequently).  Got an offer from Brandon
Allberry (allberry@ncoast) to help but he never answered my many pleas
for help (even got me an account on ncoast just to send him mail).  If
there are patches to MH 6.5, I'd appreciate a pointer to them.  In short,
I'm still trying to make MH 6.5 work on a System V box with minimal luck
so far.

/\/\ \/\/
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