Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!yetti!geac!john From: john@geac.UUCP (John Henshaw) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: PhonePhreaking in Europe Message-ID: <1316@geac.UUCP> Date: Fri, 4-Sep-87 08:53:07 EDT Article-I.D.: geac.1316 Posted: Fri Sep 4 08:53:07 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 5-Sep-87 15:18:13 EDT References: <1104@ark.cs.vu.nl> <812@cod.UUCP> Organization: GEAC Computers, Toronto, CANADA Lines: 27 Summary: honesty is the best policy In article <812@cod.UUCP>, rupp@cod.UUCP (William L. Rupp) writes: > I find this discussion of phone phreaking a bit disturbing. Hey, > isn't this sort of activity illegal? Doesn't this type of activity, > in a way similar to shoplifting, end up penalizing all the legitimate > users who pay their rightful costs? What is the point of posting > this happy news to the net? Are we to rejoice in the knowledge > that it is not too late to rip off European phone companies? > Would you rather *not* hear about it - and let the problem continue? The Dutch PTT did something about the problem only after it had gone public, yet it is probably safe to say that they were aware of the potential for abuse. They solved the problem when it became a *real* problem. Now, they've got a *better* phone system, and a methodology for resolving this kind of difficulty in the future. Getting the facts straight is the first and best step to solving any problem. I find the hacker's actions to be unethical - but ultimately useful. Dependence upon ignorance is for the cowardly and the lazy. -john- -- John Henshaw, (mnetor, yetti, utgpu !geac!john) Geac Computers Ltd. "My back to the wall, Markham, Ontario a victim of laughing chance..."