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From: dboyes@uoregon.UUCP (David Boyes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.org.decus
Subject: Re: VMS Users Network
Message-ID: <601@uoregon.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 5-Sep-87 16:44:44 EDT
Article-I.D.: uoregon.601
Posted: Sat Sep  5 16:44:44 1987
Date-Received: Sun, 6-Sep-87 09:52:47 EDT
References: <3856@well.UUCP> <3887@well.UUCP>
Reply-To: dboyes@drizzle.UUCP (David Boyes)
Organization: University of Oregon, Computer Science, Eugene OR
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Keywords: VMS, PMDF, Usenet, news, mail, DECUS, network, VUnet
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In article <3887@well.UUCP> rshuford@well.UUCP (Richard S. Shuford) writes:
>
>A. No low-cost implementations of uucp now exist that can be run under
>   VMS.  (There do exist some commercial VMS enhancement products with
>
>   Of the two attempts to reverse-engineer uucp with public-domain
>   software (uuslave and dcp), it is not known that either yet runs
>   under VMS with full functionality.  If anyone succeeds in making
>   one of them run well, the working group would want to hear about
>   it immediately, but even so, a PMDF-based network could just add
>   the "uuicio" protocol as another "channel".

DCP works just fine under VMS, as well as a bunch of other machine
types. Did you get the latest version that was posted to
comp.sources.misc? The person that brought up the point of 'why invent
another protocol?' is absolutely right -- tools exist, so let's not
reinvent the wheel, ok?

>
>Q. Shouldn't the new network be compatible with the TCP/IP protocols?
>

SLIP (Serial Line Internet Protocol) is NOT that difficult to implement.
The less standard this thing is, the less people are going to want to
mess with it. It's just one more hassle to learn or know about. If
you're going to do this, make it INVISIBLE and STANDARD. No excuses --
do it right the first time.

>A. I'm told that all Unix sites running 4.3 BSD also possess the MMDF
>   program.  PMDF was designed to talk to MMDF.

Not true.



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