Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!ukma!david From: david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- Resident E-mail Hack) Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.org.decus Subject: Re: VMS Users Network Message-ID: <7229@e.ms.uky.edu> Date: Sun, 6-Sep-87 15:09:02 EDT Article-I.D.: e.7229 Posted: Sun Sep 6 15:09:02 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 6-Sep-87 21:22:48 EDT References: <3856@well.UUCP> <3887@well.UUCP> <601@uoregon.UUCP> Reply-To: david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- Resident E-mail Hack) Organization: U of Kentucky, Mathematical Sciences Lines: 49 Keywords: VMS, PMDF, Usenet, news, mail, DECUS, network, VUnet Xref: mnetor comp.os.vms:2470 comp.org.decus:219 In article <601@uoregon.UUCP> dboyes@drizzle.UUCP (David Boyes) writes: >In article <3887@well.UUCP> rshuford@well.UUCP (Richard S. Shuford) writes: >>A. No low-cost implementations of uucp now exist that can be run under >> VMS. (There do exist some commercial VMS enhancement products with >> ... >DCP works just fine under VMS, as well as a bunch of other machine >types. Did you get the latest version that was posted to >comp.sources.misc? The person that brought up the point of 'why invent >another protocol?' is absolutely right -- tools exist, so let's not >reinvent the wheel, ok? That's nice ... >>Q. Shouldn't the new network be compatible with the TCP/IP protocols? > >SLIP (Serial Line Internet Protocol) is NOT that difficult to implement. >The less standard this thing is, the less people are going to want to >mess with it. It's just one more hassle to learn or know about. If >you're going to do this, make it INVISIBLE and STANDARD. No excuses -- >do it right the first time. SLIP is only the beginning ... you've gotta implement the rest of TCP/IP which ain't no trivial task! Two possibilities here are the CMU TCP/IP for VMS which has the advantage of being free. (but no support (of course)). The other possibility is Phil Karn's TCP/IP which will soon have support to run under a Unix with one process doing IP and a subroutine package doing TCP within each program doing TCP (the program'd have to do some IPC to the IP process). This stuff started out life in PC-DOS so I don't know what grodiness is in the code because of that. >>A. I'm told that all Unix sites running 4.3 BSD also possess the MMDF >> program. PMDF was designed to talk to MMDF. > >Not true. oh, but it is true ... go look in /usr/src/new (the user-contributed stuff) and do an ls. Notice the directory which says "mmdf". Go down in there and see all 3.4 megs of source code for the system. MMDF is a nice system that's no harder to configure than sendmail and reading mmdf is a lot more enjoyable than reading sendmail configurations. -- ----- David Herron, Local E-Mail Hack, david@ms.uky.edu, david@ms.uky.csnet ----- {rutgers,uunet,cbosgd}!ukma!david, david@UKMA.BITNET ----- ----- Je parle francais comme une vache espagnole.