Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!sq!ian From: ian@sq.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: S100 68000 hardware Message-ID: <1987Sep10.123838.10580@sq.uucp> Date: Thu, 10-Sep-87 12:38:38 EDT Article-I.D.: sq.1987Sep10.123838.10580 Posted: Thu Sep 10 12:38:38 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Sep-87 08:35:18 EDT References: <8709060045.AA05306@ngp.utexas.edu> <853*kenw@noah.arc.cdn> Reply-To: ian@sq.UUCP (Ian F. Darwin) Organization: Just Me and my megabits Lines: 28 Checksum: 17477 Ken Wallewein (kenw@noah.arc.CDN) writes: > One thing I'm curious about: I talked to a Cromemco guy once who said that > their 68000 boards are not really compatible with IEE-696. Would you have any > idea if that's true, and whether much is required for mods? I think he said > they require 16-bit memory access. It seems to me IEE-696 says it's optional. > All my boards are 8-bit only. Doesn't sound like a minor difference > to me :-). It is perfectly reasonable for a CPU card to require 16-bit memory. There is a range of valid combinations in most IEEE (count the E's) bus architectures, including 696 (S100), 797 (Multibus), etc. They have specifications for it, I forget the details but it's something like M16, A24 (meaning you do 16-bit memory accesses, and support 24-bit addressing). The DUAL Systems' 68000 board (which I have used since 1984 and am still happy with despite the fact that it's not a 68020 :-) ) also requires 16-bit memories. If you want reasonable performance that is one end of a price/performance tradeoff; if you want compatibility back through all the ages (or at least to 1975), that is quite another. CompuPro, having sold a LOT of 8-bit memory boards, presumably felt that compatibility was more important. As far as "mods", if you mean modifying your 8-bit memory boards to work in 16-bit mode, I hope you aren't serious. When you can buy a megabyte of 16-bit ram for $500? How much is your time worth? At a dollar an hour, you're probably still better off going for a new board. See the ads in Micro/Systems Journal or Computer Shopper.