Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!mimsy!aplcen!osiris!mjr From: mjr@osiris.UUCP (Marcus J. Ranum) Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.unix.wizards,comp.os.misc Subject: Re: Who owns Unix(tm)? (was: Re: Mach, the new standard?) Message-ID: <1357@osiris.UUCP> Date: Mon, 24-Aug-87 15:55:50 EDT Article-I.D.: osiris.1357 Posted: Mon Aug 24 15:55:50 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 25-Aug-87 06:13:55 EDT References: <1665@ncr-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM> <8381@utzoo.UUCP> <797@Pescadero.ARPA> <2232@xanth.UUCP> Organization: The Bavarian Illuminati, Inc. Lines: 26 Keywords: Gross overbearing ripoff! Summary: The bigger they are, the harder they hit. Xref: mnetor comp.arch:1907 comp.unix.wizards:3865 comp.os.misc:98 AT&T owns UNIX because they have enough laywers that if you lined them all up end-to-end you could walk across their backs all the way to Mars. Supposing that you tried to institute legal proceedings: they could keep it tied up in court until hell freezes over, or the last IBM PC is melted down for scrap copper. Not only would they do that, but the cost of the lawyers would be passed on to the phone users of America. One might as well ask how it is that UCB owns UCB UNIX, that was paid for in part by DARPA, and is thus really owned by the taxpayers. One might as well ask why we fight a covert war with prime-time news coverage. One might even ask when people will understand the difference between MSDOS, and operating system, and Wordstar. The FSF is one possible solution, but I am not holding my breath. There are MINIX ports out there, XINU ports, etc, etc, etc. There are lots of 'C' and even BASIC compilers out there, so if you want to re-write BSD (please include shared memory) UNIX, I'll be happy to run it when you put it in the public domain. --mjr(); -- If they think you're crude, go technical; if they think you're technical, go crude. I'm a very technical boy. So I get as crude as possible. These days, though, you have to be pretty technical before you can even aspire to crudeness... -Johnny Mnemonic