Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!beta!hc!ames!sdcsvax!darrell From: rpw3@amdcad.AMD.COM (Rob Warnock) Newsgroups: comp.os.research Subject: Re: Ethernet: modsim article Message-ID: <3896@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> Date: Wed, 16-Sep-87 20:31:29 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcsvax.3896 Posted: Wed Sep 16 20:31:29 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Sep-87 15:24:41 EDT Sender: darrell@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU Organization: [Consultant] San Mateo, CA Lines: 32 Approved: mod-os@sdcsvax.uucp In article <3819@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> pom@under.s1.gov (Peter) writes: +--------------- | Anyway, all those with first name in [a...k] should now post a statement of | their interest [ LANs, VANs, ...??? ??? ] +--------------- Hmmm.... obviously an attempt to get us to use a version of the "Urn" algorithm, often said to be near-optimal under mixed loads. Unfortunately, Urn algorithms require universal acceptance of the rules, which I seem to have just violated... ;-} ;-} Fortunately, except for considerations of disk space, USENET is not a contention protocol, but queued (assuming "inews" locks work correctly!)... In a more serious vein, Urn algorithms *do* require universal knowledge of the "state" of the algorithm (in this case, the state is that we are offering permission to transmit only to "[a-k]*"), and for this reason have some difficulty in cases such as packet radio when the packet loss rate is high. You then have to have various heuristics to "guess" at the global state of the algorithm, so you don't speak out of turn. Rob Warnock Systems Architecture Consultant UUCP: {amdcad,fortune,sun,attmail}!redwood!rpw3 ATTmail: !rpw3 DDD: (415)572-2607 USPS: 627 26th Ave, San Mateo, CA 94403