Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!VENUS.YCC.YALE.EDU!leichter From: leichter@VENUS.YCC.YALE.EDU ("Jerry Leichter") Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: RE: VMS Internet mail Message-ID: <8709050037.AA17428@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 4-Sep-87 12:11:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8709050037.AA17428 Posted: Fri Sep 4 12:11:00 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 5-Sep-87 22:25:10 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: "Jerry Leichter" Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 32 I have a friend with an account on a VMS machine who has been told that they can send "arpanet mail" with a command called SEND. I thought that VMS couldn't do this, at least by itself? You are correct; it can't ALso, the instructions she received were not clear. She was told to: type "SEND" type "MAILER!" (without quotes, of course) Unfortunately, the SEND program just replies "Can't". Yes, thats right, a single word "error message", and not even one of those strange :-) VMS error codes, either. Can anyone shed any light on the subject? There are a number of third-party products that provide access to different mail systems. What's confusing about your description is that it seems to correspond to a mixture of two different products: The syntax for the address, "MAILER!", is used by Wollongong's TCP/IP package, while the SEND command is used by Joiner's JNET Bitnet package (though it could easily be a local enhancement - the command name is obvious enough). The "Can't" error message sure sounds like Wollongong, which uses code ported over from Unix, where being concise often seems to be the only virtue - though I've never seen that particular message. Whatever the problem is, it's with locally-installed, probably locally-modi- fied software, and you'll have to get the answers from local system manager. However, if you do have Wollongong's software, you can use a mail address of the from given - "MAILER!" - from within normal VMS MAIL. -- Jerry ------