Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!cit-vax!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!IBM.COM!PERSHNG From: PERSHNG@IBM.COM (John Pershing) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: (none) Message-ID: <090987.094643.PERSHNG@ibm.com> Date: Wed, 9-Sep-87 10:26:44 EDT Article-I.D.: ibm.090987.094643.PERSHNG Posted: Wed Sep 9 10:26:44 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Sep-87 01:41:07 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 16 I don't understand why one should trust "subverted local software" to handle your *current* password, yet not trust it to set a *new* password. (Note that the current password has to be provided before the new one can be set.) The scheme the Chris Markle proposes for setting new passwords makes perfect sense to someone who is familiar with the normal IBM access control procedures. (Actually, the *original* scheme makes *more* sense, except that the perpetrators of FTP don't seem to understand the necessity of periodic password changes.) However, the GROUP() parameter on the PASS command seems a bit strange -- wouldn't it "look better" on the USER command, without echo-suppression? John A. Pershing Jr. IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Yorktown Heights, NY 10598