Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!think!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!NOTE.NSF.GOV!steve From: steve@NOTE.NSF.GOV Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: User chargeback issues Message-ID: <8709151611.aa27463@note.nsf.gov> Date: Tue, 15-Sep-87 18:05:04 EDT Article-I.D.: note.8709151611.aa27463 Posted: Tue Sep 15 18:05:04 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 17-Sep-87 06:30:20 EDT References: <8709151005.aa29600@SMOKE.BRL.ARPA> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 15 3. The final gotcha is that user chargeback needs to be implemented in a way that doesn't open the door to traffic analysis. Even if we don't chargeback to users, the data flow info is useful -- to Ivan as well as the network managers. I've been in law enforcement long enough to know how valuble telephone tolls are in tracking a smuggler and his activities -- let's not set ourselves up. Get real. The door is already open to traffic analysis, and if (110 dB rattle of saber) "Ivan" really cares, he's already doing it. Chargeback is a totally orthogonal issue. -s