Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!uwvax!rutgers!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!A.ISI.EDU!CERF From: CERF@A.ISI.EDU Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Are simultaneous TCP opens useful? Message-ID: <[A.ISI.EDU]29-Aug-87.07:06:34.CERF> Date: Sat, 29-Aug-87 07:06:00 EDT Article-I.D.: <[A.ISI.EDU]29-Aug-87.07:06:34.CERF> Posted: Sat Aug 29 07:06:00 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 30-Aug-87 08:49:04 EDT References: <280@nrc-ut.UUCP> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 15 A bit of history: In the earliest days of TCP design (1973-1974), we worked very hard to make sure that self-simul-syn would work (sounds vaguely self-abusive, doesn't it?). Richard Karp (not the one at Berkeley, but the one now running Reliable systems in Palo Alto) was a graduate student working on one of the first TCP programs (in BCPL). We assured him that the design really was intended to work on a self-connect but I recall his astonishment when we tried it and it, indeed, worked just as advertised. Vint Cerf