Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!rochester!ken From: ken@cs.rochester.edu (Ken Yap) Newsgroups: comp.sources.d Subject: Re: COPYRIGHT NOTICES (on program sources, of course) Message-ID: <1598@sol.ARPA> Date: Sat, 22-Aug-87 22:10:30 EDT Article-I.D.: sol.1598 Posted: Sat Aug 22 22:10:30 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Aug-87 14:39:49 EDT References: <6236@brl-smoke.ARPA> <25095@sun.uucp> <12133@bu-cs.BU.EDU> <14152@topaz.rutgers.edu> <337@brandx.rutgers.edu> Reply-To: ken@cs.rochester.edu (Ken Yap) Organization: U of Rochester, CS Dept, Rochester, NY Lines: 33 All this talk of filtering out sources that don't have "proper" copyright notices on them has ignored why authors put conditions in software they give out. In the case of TeX sources, which says only DEK is allowed to modify, that is because Knuth doesn't want multiple, unofficial base versions running around. There is a mechanism for making "patches" with "tangle". The Kermit software is copyrighted, but is freely redistributable. There is however an exhortation to use Kermit for peaceful purposes. In the case of the notices on my insignificant software, I generally have in mind two things: I don't want commercial interests making money off it by claiming it as theirs, assuming it would even interest them in the first place, and I would prefer not to see my software used for millitary purposes. OK, so it's a political statement. But if you think about it, there is no way I can afford to come sue you. And even if I did, it would be impossible for a court to decide if that time you ran your 5000 line assembler program for a tank-tracking system through my shell script was a violation. I'd just get laughed out of court. So if you think I'm saying such copyright conditions are well nigh impossible to enforce, you're right. But that doesn't mean they are silly. The author is communicating her wishes about how the software should be used. Personally I'm grateful to software developers who give us good stuff like Kermit and I am willing to go along with reasonable conditions, or, in case of doubt, to try to adhere to the spirit of the conditions. Ken