Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!rutgers!ames!lll-tis!mordor!under!pom From: pom@under..ARPA (Peter O. Mikes) Newsgroups: sci.lang,comp.std.internat Subject: generalised alphabets Message-ID: <15488@mordor.s1.gov> Date: Thu, 27-Aug-87 20:04:43 EDT Article-I.D.: mordor.15488 Posted: Thu Aug 27 20:04:43 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Aug-87 12:25:14 EDT Sender: news@mordor.s1.gov Reply-To: pom@s1-under.UUCP () Organization: S-1 Project, LLNL Lines: 45 Xref: mnetor sci.lang:1252 comp.std.internat:183 Subject: generalised alphabets (letters + diacritics) One conclusion which follows from the last month of discussions on accented languages is, that we should be happy that we have ASCII and ISCII, and that at least one of them has a lasting place in both past and future. The other, being in accordance with MEGATRENDS, is that we do have and will have also a need for more general method (since French are not going to give up any cheese) of describing accented letters. So, taking some guidance from mathematics [ which can eat three alphabets for breakfest and still have Alef for lunch] how would you people feel about the following method FOR CODING of complex alphabets? 1) ASCII or ISCII is and will remain a plain vanilla work-horse 2) As time will pass, more and more groups (national or application) will ask for extensions. BTW: I recall that DP - in the Olden Times - used capitals only, (so did first typewriters ) - now - as pendulums swings back - we have unix excess of low-case-good / capital-case-bad era. 3) To accomodate such (eventual future) demand, in a manner which will not degenerate into an orgy of escapes in escapes, consider following: Lets say that we define three sets of signs: super-scripts, sub-scripts and (normal level) base-scripts. We than can create e.g. a french set by combining latin base with ` ^ o ... set of super-scripts, German by combining latin base with .. (umlaut), swedish with tiny o superscript and base level overstrike / etc.. We can have some mathematical symbols as letters with - + * etc (either above or next to letters) - and just about every other national alphabet. It is clear that any national group will need and will use (e.g. printers) which will produce what-ever ornamentations their forefathers dreamed up. By creating a standart - which will define any such set - in an agreed upon manner - we can still maintain some order in the madness: a) we do not force anybody to give up their favorite excess and b) we do not force ( by default) each national task force to dream-up their unique and (naturally incompatible) methods of achieving their goal Any comments? pom@under.s1.gov || @s1-under.UUCP