Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!nott-cs!pyr1!seefromline From: george@Cs.Ucl.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.std.internat Subject: Re: Currency symbols Message-ID: <38600001@pyr1> Date: Tue, 8-Sep-87 16:59:00 EDT Article-I.D.: pyr1.38600001 Posted: Tue Sep 8 16:59:00 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 10-Sep-87 06:47:21 EDT References: <1261@mucs.UX.CS.MAN.AC.UK> Lines: 58 Nf-ID: #R:mucs.UX.CS.MAN.AC.UK:-126100:pyr1:38600001:000:2349 Nf-From: Cs.Ucl.ac.uk!george Sep 8 20:59:00 1987 I have not been following this discussion Live and so cannot tell if these have been mentioned before. apologies if redundant info (1) several books notably "I Claudius" by Robert Graves discuss in minor ways the adaptation of the roman alphabet by decree and/or changes in usage. the shift to explicit U/V comes to mind here (2) whilst several posters have discussed the formation of $ and English Pound Sign & Yen in "and thats why the word led to the choice of symbol" form, it's worth recalling that these were established (like most of our writing conventions) AS PRINTERS KLUDGES - having to manufacture type was to much of an effort for any old phoneme to get slapped into 300 -odd sizes, piches, reversed/you-name-its, so doing it by overstrike and/or other cheats was commonsense. until typesetting came along spelling was in the eye of the beholder. If it sounded right then you writ it. if fome mechanical geniuf had invented a way to do the big letter "f" fenfibly we'd probaby still be ufing it. ditto rather nasty double "SS" symbol added to german typewriters during war according to at least one novel (brrrr eugh!) (3) printers hacks would probably cover 75% plus of the common problems with accent marks & currency signs if someone wrote a filter to do overstrike-on-pattern that was small and fast and portable enough to use. -if it works on a Teletype 33 why can't it work on a sun? -why dont we all junk our 32k crocks & go back to uppercase only telex? there's only 15 MILLION plus installed machines out there... and they appear to be QUITE happy to use "byte-stuffing" codes to send special characters down the line. (see T.61) EuroCheques have a nice wee box before the space for amount and a book listing the legal 2 and 3 letter combinations for all allowed currencies. since there is no symbol for ECU and anyone on an EEC grant will have a LOT of experience writing *that* modernism and since furthermore there should shortly be european currency at least for higher denomination quantities perhaps we can all sit back and watch social pressure drive a change in our keyboard layout. George Michaelson ---------------- JANET: george@uk.ac.ucl.cs UUCP: {...mcvax!}ukc!ucl-cs!george OTHER: what are you doing wasting DoD network resources anyhow?