Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!mcvax!enea!kuling!andersa From: andersa@kuling.UUCP (Anders Andersson) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat Subject: Re: generalised alphabets Message-ID: <483@kuling.UUCP> Date: Mon, 14-Sep-87 21:23:09 EDT Article-I.D.: kuling.483 Posted: Mon Sep 14 21:23:09 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 16-Sep-87 06:15:51 EDT References: <15488@mordor.s1.gov> <573@l.cc.purdue.edu> <2342@xanth.UUCP> Reply-To: andersa@kuling.UUCP (Anders Andersson) Organization: Uppsala University, Sweden Lines: 39 In article <2342@xanth.UUCP> kent@xanth.UUCP (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: >The goal for the typest, after all, is a bit of flexibility. One may >want to type "a" then "raised circle", another the opposite order. If >an overstrike key were implemented, and it specificly understood that >the characters typed while it was held / bytes between the overstrike >markers were order independent, this would take care of lots of >languages which decorate letters, the infamous APL keyboard, and >perhaps some other problems. I think keyboard design is a problem which should be kept separate from text representation. While there is a need for a common standard to identify the characters as abstract items and displaying them in an unambigous way on any screen or sheet of paper, few people will actually need the ability to type each character or ideograph themselves. Keyboards are very much subject to regional and individual taste, and I think they will continue to be so. Semi-advanced keyboards will of course contain some extra modifier keys for producing various "foreign" characters, although they will probably have separate keys for what's common locally. I wouldn't accept pressing two or three keys in a row just to produce some of the vowels which are particular to Swedish, but I wouldn't mind using that method for typing an occasional accented "e" in some French name for instance. Turkish keyboards won't care about these, but will probably have dotted and undotted "i" separated instead, and so on. Ideally, there should be a common keyboard interface standard, giving me the ability to bring my own (perhaps customized) keyboard when going abroad, and have the right things appear on the screen when I plug it into a Japanese workstation and start typing... That's flexibility! Keyboard layout standardisation is of course an important issue, but where to put which modifier keys and how to use them seems to belong more to the problem of QWERTY vs. AZERTY than to international, digital text representation. -- Anders Andersson, Dept. of Computer Systems, Uppsala University, Sweden Phone: +46 18 183170 UUCP: andersa@kuling.UUCP (...!{seismo,mcvax}!enea!kuling!andersa)