Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!esquire!bassett From: bassett@esquire.UUCP (William Bassett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,rec.music.synth Subject: Re: Amiga midi problems? Message-ID: <154@esquire.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Aug-87 17:43:14 EDT Article-I.D.: esquire.154 Posted: Thu Aug 27 17:43:14 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Aug-87 13:06:21 EDT References: <1408@ico.UUCP> <1601@ulowell.cs.ulowell.edu> <628@cup.portal.com> <1701@cadovax.UUCP> <139@osupyr.UUCP> Reply-To: bassett@esquire.UUCP (William Bassett) Organization: DP&W, New York, NY Lines: 52 Xref: mnetor comp.sys.amiga:7868 rec.music.synth:1366 Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,rec.music.synth Subject: Re: Amiga midi problems? Summary: Expires: References: <1408@ico.UUCP> <1601@ulowell.cs.ulowell.edu> <628@cup.portal.com> <1701@cadovax.UUCP> <139@osupyr.UUCP> Sender: Reply-To: bassett@esquire.UUCP (William Bassett) Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: DP&W, New York, NY Keywords: In article <139@osupyr.UUCP> czei@osupyr.UUCP (Michael S Czeiszperger) writes: > >This discussion does NOT belong on rec.music.synth. The >postings have long since degenerated into sensless arguing aobt >which computer is better, and has nothing whatsoever to do with >music. I think this discussion does belong here. It seems very narrow-minded to exclude discussions on computer music, in this age of MIDI, from rec.music.synth. One could start a rec.music.computers group, but since the line between synthesizers and computers gets fuzzier all the time, it seems natural to keep discussions of both together. If one of the main purposes of this group is for musicians to help each other create, then talking about computers is crucial to the group. What is the point in trying to hook up synthesizers to each other and to computers, if you don't know how to use them to help realise your ideas? Talking about the tools of the synthesizer trade is as important as violinists talking about bows or practice techniques. Computer music is still at such an early stage, that many people are still at the stage of playing "chopsticks", as far as sophisticated use of their instruments. I think any discussion of how to use computers better as instruments is greatly needed. (naturally there will be articles that you don't find helpful, but that's true of the rec.music.classical group as well. If you don't like it, you can just turn the page. In the case of the Amiga discussion, most of it has been concerned with the accuracy of the timing capability of the computer, which of course is vital to its use in music. Craig Anderton had a good answer to a recent letter in Electronic Musician magazine, saying essentially the same thing, that you need to really get down into knowing the details of how an instrument or a computer responds before you can get it to express what you want it to express. What good is having a great idea about a piece, if you have no idea how to realise it? People do lose their perspective on the final goal, sometimes - here, making music. But these people may be the people who'll design the next great sequencer. I'd like to hear what they have to say. Rick Bassett CompuMUC <16natiternu