Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ucla-cs!zen!hoser!bryce From: bryce@hoser.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: noKLICKstart Message-ID: <3616@zen.berkeley.edu> Date: Sun, 6-Sep-87 05:06:18 EDT Article-I.D.: zen.3616 Posted: Sun Sep 6 05:06:18 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 6-Sep-87 20:44:22 EDT Sender: news@zen.berkeley.edu Reply-To: bryce@hoser.berkeley.edu (Bryce Nesbitt) Distribution: world Organization: Rubber Hose Makers of America, Inc. Lines: 53 Keywords: oh no! Well it's obvious that there is much interest in not having empty drives click; my mailbox tells me that! (Almost filled /usr/spool/mail :-). The original posting was a patch for the V1.2 Kickstart disk to eliminate the click that empty drives make. The posting also gave absolute addresses for those who have ROMs. The mail came in three categories: ------------------- Mail> Thanks! [That's always bugged the heck out of me.] Me> You're welcome. ------------------- Mail> I get this message-> "You can't fool me! :-) That's not an unmodified V1.2 (33.180) Kickstart!!". I type "version" and it gives me 33.180. What gives? Me> You have a "Gamma 1" Kickstart and not the "Release" version. You must upgrade to use noKLICKstart. (Cost $12-$15. Includes Kickstart, Workbench, Extras and documentation including important V1.2 technical info. Dealers know it as the "V1.2 Enhancer Software".) A glitch at Commodore-Amiga caused the version number not to be auto- incremented like it should have been. ------------------- And now the most serious category of responses. I made an assumption with noKLICKstart, a good one from my point of view. I checked with Sony and NEC and tested with others including Mitsubishi and Panasonic. It worked flawlessly on several A1000's, several A500's and a dealer's A2000 (German design). I put it out on the net partially to get it tested on a wider base. Several people wrote that one or more of their drives did not stop clicking. In fact, they get louder. Each case where I know, it has been with an early A1000, usually purchased from developer support back when the machine first came out. Some purchased from dealers early on. My assumption was that >any< transition of /STEP would reset the /CHNG latch. This has held true for all respondents. I also assumed that before /STEP got to the stepper it would pass through a gate that would block it if the DIRection was outwards and the track zero sensor was active. All drives I've ever seen that have an interface with DIR and /STEP have been like this. Not those unlucky few. Two of the people with this problem wrote or posted that "Matsushita" was the brand stamped on their disk drives. In conclusion, it seems that noKLICKstart will work on most, but not all disk drives. Matt Dillon has a still-clicking external drive, so maybe I'll ask if he will swap for my NEC while I look into the problem. (I'll also try to track down the technical scoop from Matsushita). Until then it does no harm to try noKLICKstart on your system... but if the clicking does not stop I can't recommend that you use it. If it does stop... may you, um. "Rest In Peace". :-) |\ /| . Ack! (NAK, EOT, SOH) {o O} . ( " ) bryce@hoser.berkeley.EDU -or- ucbvax!hoser!bryce U