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From: mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (My watch has windows) Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: Smalltalk on Amiga, RESULTS
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Date: Tue, 15-Sep-87 05:21:23 EDT
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In article <188@sertne.Dayton.NCR.COM> thomas@sertne.Dayton.NCR.COM (Scott A. Thomas) writes:
<The results were that there appears to be a PD version on Fish disk #37.  This
<version does not support the graphical interface but is apparently written in
<C so a person can easily add new features.

1) There is support for the Unix plot(3?) routines in Little
Smalltalk. I have an untested implementation of those routines for the
Amiga. You're welcome to them if you want them. But I wouldn't
recommend it, because:

2) Dr. Budd (the author of the system) recommends against hacking on
Little Smalltalk to try and turn it into something approaching a
full-blown smalltalk. It was written so he could teach his students
about object-oriented programming on Unix with ASCII terminals. It's
great for that, but is to slow for real applications. However:

3) If you're going to use Little Smalltalk to play with Smalltalk, get
Dr. Budds book "A Little Smalltalk." It's well written, and guides you
through object-oriented programming quite nicely. About half of it
discusses the guts of Little Smalltalk, and should probably be
required if you want to hack on it.

<I personally would be willing to pay a reasonable amount of money for such a 
<system, since there is a version of Smalltalk/V for a PC that supports a mouse,
<and graphics and cost less that $100.  And the PC is braindamaged when it comes
<to hi-res graphics and mice.

How about Scheme + SCOOPS or a Common LISP + Common LOOPS with hooks
for graphics? I'd prefer that to Smalltalk, and a good LISP system for
the Amiga is something I'm going to take a crack at in the foreseeable
future.

	<mike
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