Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!ames!lll-tis!ptsfa!ihnp4!ihlpg!rre From: rre@ihlpg.ATT.COM (Roger Espinosa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Kyan Pascal and Programming Toolkits Message-ID: <3791@ihlpg.ATT.COM> Date: Wed, 9-Sep-87 16:18:34 EDT Article-I.D.: ihlpg.3791 Posted: Wed Sep 9 16:18:34 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Sep-87 05:49:35 EDT Organization: Velveteen Rabbit Corps Lines: 31 Keywords: Anybody Out There Use These Guys? Hi. Yes, it's time for another question: Does anybody out there use the Kyan Pascal software? I've seen evidence of people using Kix, which Kyan also makes, so I'm curious. Currently I'm using Apple UCSD Pascal, but am annoyed by the APDA expansion products (Desktop Toolkit, namely), and the fact that Apple seems to have dropped UCSD Pascal from its product list and support (instead backing fully everything that's GS-specific). Kyan seems to have some eye-catching products that SEEM TO BE tested and final versions (no first draft deals). And even Kyan Pascal with the Systems Utilities Toolkit and the Advanced Graphics Toolkit (dhires) costs $175 from Kyan itself, cheaper than UCSD did at the mailorder house. I seem to recall an A+ review of Kyan Pascal that was, well, reaky, but that was way back in 1984 so I wonder if things have changed. Eagerly awaiting... Thanks, Roger Espinosa "Stack Overflow S#1 P#4 etc" -- Roger R. Espinosa Live from the Rabbit Ranch ihnp4!ihlpg!rre