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From: jfh@killer.UUCP (The Beach Bum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: UUCP dialout, uugetty fighting...
Message-ID: <1509@killer.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 9-Sep-87 16:52:29 EDT
Article-I.D.: killer.1509
Posted: Wed Sep  9 16:52:29 1987
Date-Received: Fri, 11-Sep-87 07:26:03 EDT
References: <18171@amdcad.AMD.COM> <1469@chinet.UUCP> <18179@amdcad.AMD.COM> <1478@chinet.UUCP>
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Summary: Oh how boring can it get ...
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In article <1478@chinet.UUCP>, randy@chinet.UUCP (Randy Suess) writes:
> In article <18180@amdcad.AMD.COM> tim@amdcad.UUCP (Tim Olson) writes:
> >In article <6127@ut-ngp.UUCP> ayac071@ngp.UUCP (Bill Douglass) writes:
> >+-----
> >|I thought that ignoring CD on a modem line would cause the process to stay
> >|running if the user should hang-up without logging out proper.  Is this not
> >
> >Remember that we are talking about running our own "special" getty on
> >this line.  
> >Therefore, if CD then drops, the login shell will terminate normally.
> 
> 	Ah!  Then you *do* have CD on your Hayes modem set to follow
> 	carrier.  How, then, does uugetty dial out?  It requires CD to
> 	be hi to open the port for dialing.

I have been following this one since these guys started at each others throats,
so now it's my turn.

If this guys is so smart as to realize there is a problem with the modem
having CD follow the carrier, can't he realize the solution?  Only when a
user is on the line must CLOCAL be turned off.  After the user is gone,
CLOCAL can be turned back on.  The `getty' can do it, or the communications
programs can handle it before the port is opened.  Hopefully this won't
evolve back into the earlier Catch-22 discussion.  It can be done, I've done
it and so have plenty of other bodies.

John.
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