Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!necntc!ames!amdahl!bnrmtv!perkins From: perkins@bnrmtv.UUCP (Henry Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Clock speed on those darn 80?87 chips ... Message-ID: <2545@bnrmtv.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-Sep-87 16:59:01 EDT Article-I.D.: bnrmtv.2545 Posted: Tue Sep 15 16:59:01 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Sep-87 01:16:11 EDT References: <454@hubcap.UUCP> Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc Distribution: na Organization: BNR Inc., Mountain View, California Lines: 20 Summary: 80287 runs at 2/3 the 80286 machine in an AT-type machine. Xref: mnetor comp.sys.intel:347 comp.sys.ibm.pc:7843 In article <454@hubcap.UUCP>, oolidjr@hubcap.UUCP (Joe Moll) writes: > What is the deal with the clock speed rating on the INTeL co-processor > chips??? My brother just bought a 10Mhz, 0 wait state AT clone. The > dealer claims (along with a few people at our institution) that the > coprocessor runs at (2/3) * main processor clock speed. This is correct, but is a "feature" of IBM's AT architecture and not of the Intel chips used. IBM used a 12 MHz crystal in the original AT, with a divide-by-2 for the 80286 and a divide-by-3 for the 80287. This is possible on the 80286 machines because the CPU and FPU are asynchronous, whereas they weren't on the 8086 machines. IBM did this to allowed their ATs to use cheaper lower-speed 80287 chips. Consequently my original Compaq DeskPro (with 8086 and 8087 at 7.14 MHz) is a better number cruncher than most AT-type machines (with 80287 running at 4 or 5.33 MHz). -- {hplabs,amdahl,ames}!bnrmtv!perkins --Henry Perkins It is better never to have been born. But who among us has such luck? One in a million, perhaps.