Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!husc6!rutgers!ames!amdahl!drivax!socha From: socha@drivax.UUCP (Henri J. Socha (x6251)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: environment's inventors Message-ID: <2327@drivax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 4-Sep-87 13:06:15 EDT Article-I.D.: drivax.2327 Posted: Fri Sep 4 13:06:15 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 6-Sep-87 03:25:53 EDT References: <1987Aug28.123711.18714@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> <1830@midas.TEK.COM> Reply-To: socha@drivax.UUCP (Henri J. Socha (x6251)) Organization: Digital Research, Monterey, CA Lines: 36 Keywords: mouse window xerox Digital Research In article <1830@midas.TEK.COM> herbw@midas.UUCP (Herb Weiner) writes: >In Article <1987Aug28.123711.18714@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu>, >gbs@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu (Gideon Sheps) writes: >> Apple did NOT invent the mouse, the window or anything else intrinsic >Apple was issued Patent Number 4,464,652 on August 7, 1984. This Patent >describes the use of Pull Down Menus, which make a one button mouse practical. > Apple did successfully sue (if an out of court settlement which >included an agreement to modify the product can be considered "successful") >the producers of Gem Desktop (??) for the IBM PC, and they agreed to modify >the product to avoid infringing the patent, including recalling units that had >already been sold. FYI, yes it is called GEM Desktop (the finder equivalent) written by employees at Digital Research Inc. of CP/M fame. There was more in the suit including "an undisclosed amount of money" but word around here says that this was token, just some PR amount. There are GEM Applications: Graph, Draw Plus, Publisher, "Scanner", etc. Interestingly, Regis McKenna the PR man was on the board of both companies. Also, Atari was not sued and I think still uses the desktop Apple did not like. ---- Disclaimer: I don't speak for my employer. All comments are my own and may be utterly fictitious though I try to be as factual as possible. Yes, I am employed by DRI but in this instance only allows me to know some of what was going on from both sides. (Like my Datapoint first "PC" and LAN knowledge.) Yes, I do own and like my Mac (SE-20) and would rather not get into a discussion about the relative merits. (So no FLAMES and don't type 'f' I was just really trying to answer a ???.) -- UUCP:...!amdahl!drivax!socha WAT Iron'75 "Everything should be made as simple as possible but not simpler." A. Einstein