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From: dsc@izimbra.CSS.GOV (David S. Comay)
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Subject: Re: Byte review. 386 v '020
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Date: Thu, 10-Sep-87 19:13:03 EDT
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In article <2508@vdsvax.steinmetz.UUCP> barnett@steinmetz.UUCP (Bruce G Barnett) writes:
>My figures are:
>
>	68020 @ 25MHz = 4 MIPS (Sun 3/200)
>	SPARC      = 10 MIPS (Sun 4)

check the recent articles in comp.arch for figures that dispute sun's
ten mips claim for the sun 4.  it actually is more like six to seven
mips on real programs.

also, although the comparisions between the low end 68020 workstations
are interesting, they seem to ignore some of my concerns:

	1. i want to run affordable software in a windowing
	environment.  there are few programs in that class available on
	the sun or for that matter, the apollo.  there are quite a few
	programs including pagemaker, more, ready set go, etc that are
	extremely useful and resonably affordable (at least compared to
	the per cpu charges for things like interleaf) available today
	on the macintosh ii.

	2. i'm not personally interested in running aux on a macintosh
	ii.  if i wanted a decent inexpensive unix box, then i would
	consider something like a 3/50 or a 3/60 or a 80386 based
	system or perhaps a 3b1 (hmm, i did say decent, right? :-) if i
	purchased a macintosh ii, it's because i want to run macintosh
	software and not unix software.

	3. the macintosh ii is expandable while the sun 3/50 is not.
	if you want to compare hardware and their costs, a comparision
	between a sun 3/160 and a macintosh ii would be more useful.

disclaimer: i like unix, i've used unix for about eight years and it
has many strong points.  i like the macintosh, i've used it for a
couple of years and it also has many strong points.  there are places
in my work for both of them.  i don't own stock in either company and
am more certainly not a spokesperson for anyone (except perhaps for the
levi stubbs' appreciation society. :-)

sigh,

dsc

`see across the view.
 see the sky ripped open.
 see the rain through the gaping wound,
 pounding the women and children
 who run
 into the arms
 of america'