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Subject: Re: Macintosh file transfer tips wanted
Message-ID: <1264@unc.cs.unc.edu>
Date: Sat, 12-Sep-87 17:28:12 EDT
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Posted: Sat Sep 12 17:28:12 1987
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Summary: summary of responses received and solution found

In article <1195@unc.cs.unc.edu>, stamr@unc.cs.unc.edu (Robert B. Stam) writes:
> 
> So...  the questions are:
> 
> 1)  Is there a real Kermit for the Mac?
> 2)  Does Red Ryder support multiple file transfer without intervention?
> 3)  Does any other comm package handle this well?
> 4)  Should I not be using Kermit?
> 

I'd like to thank all those who responded to my request for information
about file transfer capabilities from a Unix Vax to my Macintosh.  This
article is a summary of my findings.  It doesn't match anyone's suggestions
exactly, but is sort of distilled from them.

-  Kermit is the best (most convenient) way to transfer files.  It works
best when you are running real Kermit on both ends (CKermit on the VAX
and MacKermit on the Mac).  Kermit is not the fastest (% bandwidth)
file transfer, it achieves about 50% efficiency.

-  I received recommendations for other programs also (Versaterm and
others), but Kermit is FREE.

-  When ready to transfer files, start up a Kermit server on the host
by starting Kermit with the -x switch, as in:

	% kermit -x

-  You can now use the MacKermit menus to send and receive files.  Note
that besides transferring files you can use the remote menu for all kinds
of things (like changing directories on the host).  When ready to continue
normal terminal emulation select "finish" from the remote menu.

-  MacKermit also handles correctly transmission of text files, one of my
complaints about Red Ryder (no more ugly boxes).

-  MacKermit is not the fanciest terminal emulator, though.  I've settled for
using Red Ryder most of the time, and switching to MacKermit when I want to
transfer a batch of files.

-  COMPATIBILITY WARNING:  I was unable to get MacKermit to work on
a Mac SE.  It looks like it's running, but the font shown on the screen
is Zapf Dingbats 9 (ever tried to read Zapf Dingbats?).  I think this is
a problem caused by the fonts in the 256K ROM overriding the fonts in
the MacKermit resource fork.  Anyone who has a solution to this is
requested to send me email.

-  The best way to get MacKermit is to find a friend with a Mac that already
has it.  It can also be ftp'd from cu20b.columbia.edu.  The files you
want are:

	ckmker.bwr	bug reports
	ckmker.doc	manual
	ckmker.hqx	MacKermit (convert with BinHex 4.0)
	ckmker.upd	news
	ckmkey.hqx	Keyboard configuration program
	ckmvt1.doc	documents vt100 emulation capabilities

Almost all of the above files are also present as xk*.*, and correspond
to an experimental newer version.  ck files are version 0.8(34), and xk
files are version 0.8(35).

-  The above files are in region (or directory?) k2.  The easiest way
is to tell ftp to cd there before getting the files, as in:

	ftp> cd k2:

Thanks again to fellow netters for the valuable information.  Anyone
out there with any questions about my experiences is welcome to send
me email.

-- 
Robert B. Stam                          CSNET: stamr@unc.cs.unc.edu
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